Financial Results 2022

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📣 Tim Höttges (CEO): Overview 
0:03:09 Welcome 
0:03:52 Results Q1-3 2022: sector leading growth (p#3) 
0:04:59 Financials Q1-3 2022 organic: strong growth (p#4) 
0:07:00 Networks: leading with 5G, FTTH well on track (p#5) 
0:08:06 Customers: growing strongly (p#6) 
0:08:35 ESG: taking tangible steps towards ambitions (p#7) 
0:10:15 Guidance 2022: raised for the third time (p#8) 

📣 Christian Illek (CFO): Operations 
0:11:35 Welcome 
0:11:38 US: strong financial growth (p#10) 
0:13:40 US: highest postpaid phone growth since merger (p#11) 
0:14:17 DE: 24th consecutive quarter of EBITDA growth (p#12) 
0:16:28 DE: service revenues: growing across the board (p#13) 
0:16:53 DE: fixed: net adds improved, strong upselling continues (p#14) 
0:18:18 DE: retail and wholesale fixed: steady growth (p#15) 
0:18:40 DE: mobile: record customer intake (p#16) 
0:19:18 EU: 19th consecutive quarter of organic EBITDA growth (p#17) 
0:20:06 EU: strong commercial performance (p#18) 
0:20:23 Towers: strong growth (p#19) 
0:21:18 Systems Solutions: steady recovery (p#20) 

📣 Christian Illek (CFO): Financials
0:22:03 Overview: strong financial growth (p#22) 
0:22:56 Free cash flow + Net Income (p#23) 
0:24:18 Net debt + Leverage (p#24)
0:25:42 Inflation exposure: multiple safeguards in place (p#25)

📣 Tim Höttges (CEO): Wrap-up 
0:27:47 Main takeaways (p#27) 

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Topics (25 questions from 13 analysts): 

• 12x DE: Competitive environment, Fiber JV VOD, FTTH rollout targets, FTTH costs, FTTH customer demand, Fiber migrations, 2x Spectrum, Mobile net-adds, Wholesale revenue, TV, New mobile tariffs
• 7x Finance: FCF guidance, Cash lease costs, EPS outlook on 2023, Debt leverage, Pension debt/costs, Capital allocation, Dividend, D&A,
• 3x Ex-US: Macro/customer spending, Impact of inflation on FTTH, Sale of fixedline network assets
• 2x US: Fiber speculation, Competitive intensity
• 1x T-Systems: Restructuring

Questions are answered by Tim Höttges (CEO), Christian Illek (CFO) and Hannes Wittig (Head of IR).

0:32:42 Intro to Q&A

🙋‍♂️ 1. 0:33:07 Akhil Dattani (JPM)
-DE competitive environment: how do you see that
-FCF Guidance: what are the moving parts?

🙋‍♂️ 2. 00:38:08 Joshua Mills, (BNP Paribas)
-DE Fiber: cooperation with Vodafone JV possible?
-TMUS Fiber: Comment on speculations?

🙋‍♂️ 3. 00:41:56 Robert Grindle (Deutsche Bank)
-T-Systems: Restructuring to be expected?
-Ex-US macro: Impact on the consumer?

🙋‍♂️ 4. 00:50:26 Steve Malcolm (Redburn)
-Cash lease costs: what to expect?
-DE fiber rollout: targets confirmed? 

🙋‍♂️ 5. 00:53:09 Georgios Ierodiaconou (Citi)
-EPS: Outlook on 2023
-Fiber rollout: impact of inflation?

🙋‍♂️ 6. 01:01:05 David Wright (BoAML)
-US market: perspective on competitive intensity?

🙋‍♂️ 7. 01:04:25 Andrew Lee (Goldman Sachs)
-Fixedline network assets: willing to sell?
-Debt leverage targets: impact on 

🙋‍♂️ 8. 01:08:41 Jacob Bluestone (Credit Suisse)
-Pension debt and costs: what to expect?
-DE fiber migrations: monetization?

🙋‍♂️ 9. 01:11:46 Polo Tang (UBS)
-Capital allocation: plans for the proceeds of the tower sale?
-DE spectrum: view on BNetzA proposal?

🙋‍♂️ 10. 01:13:40 James Ratzer (Newstreet)
-DE FTTH: customer demand?
-Dividend: Thinking behind the 70ct?

🙋‍♂️ 11. 01:19:54 Ottavio Adorisio (Societe Generale)
-DE net adds in DE: what to expect?
-D&A: what to expect?

🙋‍♂️ 12. 01:24:10 Emmet Kelly (Morgan Stanley)
-DE wholesale revenue: outlook for 2023?
-DE TV business: is DT benefiting from Vodafone's struggles?

🙋‍♂️ 13. 01:28:19 Usaman Ghazi (Berenberg)
-DE mobile family tariff plans: increase penetration or share gain?
-DE spectrum: view on BNetzA consultation?

▪ Group financials at a Glance
   Q1-3/Q3: Table, Notes; History: 2021-14

▪ Income statement
   Q1-3/Q3: Table, Notes; History: 2021-19

▪ Statement of cash flows
   Q1-3/Q3: Table, Notes; History: 2021-19

▪ Balance sheet
   End of September: Table, Notes; History: 2021-19

▪ Segment reporting
   Q1-3/End of September: Table; History: 2021-19

▪ Reconciliation of the organic development (Net revenue, EBITDA)
   Q1-3: Table

▪ Impact of change in principle-agent accounting and of the shift of the
   security business from T-Systems to Telekom Deutschland
   Q1-3: Table

▪ Q3: Highlights:
         ▪ Guidance raised for the 2022 financial year for the second time
         ▪ Sale of mobile towers: agreement with DigitalBridge and Brookfield 
         ▪ Sale of U.S. wireline business: agreement with Cogent
         ▪ T-Mobile US share buy-back program
         ▪ T-Mobile US rating upgrade 
         ▪ Networks: Progress of rollout
         ▪ Cooperations, partnerships, and major deals
         ▪ Products, rate plans, and services
         ▪ Awards

▪ Q1-3: Significant events and transactions
         ▪ Accounting policies: Gross vs. net recognition of revenues
           (change in the principal/agent consideration)
         ▪ War in Ukraine
         ▪ Coronavirus pandemic
         ▪ Changes in the composition of the Group
                   ▪ Sale of T-Mobile NL: completed (March 31,  2022)
                   ▪ Joint venture with IFM for FTTH rollout: completed 
                      (Feb. 28, 2022)
                   ▪ Sale of mobile towers: agreement with DigitalBridge
                      and Brookfield (July 13, 2022)
                   ▪ Sale of U.S. wireline business: agreement with Cogent 
                      (Sept. 6, 2022)
                   ▪ Reassignment of the security business from T-Systems to 
                      Telekom Deutschland
         ▪ Other transactions that had no effect on the composition of the Group
                   ▪ Share buy-back OTE (22.02.2022)
                   ▪ Increase of the stake in T-Mobile US (12.04.2022)
                   ▪ Share buy-back program at T-Mobile US (08.09.2022)

▪ Events after the reporting period (Sept. 1 until Nov. 9, 2022)
         ▪ T-Mobile US share buy-back program continued
         ▪ Issue of asset-backed securities by T-Mobile US
         ▪ Agreement of a credit facility by T-Mobile US

▪ Overview

▪ Results of operations of the Group
         ▪ Financials: Net revenue, service revenue; Adjusted EBITDA AL,
            EBITDA AL; EBIT; Profit before income taxes; Net profit,
            adjusted net profit; Earnings per share, adjusted earnings per share;
            Special factors
         ▪ Employees

▪ Financial position of the Group: Balance sheet, net debt, free cash flow

▪ Other information
         ▪ Group organization, strategy, and management
         ▪ Executive bodies: Board of management supervisory board
         ▪ Related party disclosure

▪ Germany
         ▪ Business: Mobile, Fixed, Wholesale
         ▪ Financials: Total-/service revenues, EBITDA, EBIT, Capex

▪ US
         ▪ Business: Customers (prepaid/contract)
         ▪ Financials: Total-/service revenues, EBITDA, EBIT, Capex

▪ Europe
        ▪ Business: Customers, Mobile communications, Fixed network, FMC
        ▪ Financials: Total-/service revenues, EBITDA, EBIT, Capex 

▪ Systems Solutions
        ▪ Business: Overview
         ▪ Financials: Total-/service revenues, EBITDA, EBIT, Capex

▪ Group Development
        ▪ Business: Customers in NL
        ▪ Financials: Total-/service revenues, EBITDA, EBIT, Capex

▪ Group Headquarters and Group Services
        ▪ Financials: Total-/service revenues, EBITDA, EBIT, Capex

▪ Segment reporting (Table)

▪ The economic environment
         ▪ Macroeconomic development
         ▪ Overall economic risks
         ▪ Regulation:
                   ▪ EU roaming regulation
                   ▪ Approval of rates for copper-based wholesale
                      services in DE for 10 years
                   ▪ BNetzA Entscheidung für die Zugangsregulierung
                      inklusive Zugang zu FTTH-Netzen
                   ▪ Awarding of spectrum (USA, Croatia + Outlook)
                   ▪ Digital strategy of the German government

▪ Forecast

▪ Risks and opportunities
         ▪ Risks arising from the macroeconomic environment
         ▪ Procurement and supply risks
         ▪ Litigation
         ▪ Anti-trust proceedings
         ▪ Assessment of the aggregate risk position

▪ Contingencies
         ▪ Claims relating to charges for the shared use of cable ducts
         ▪ Proceedings against T‑Mobile US in consequence of the cyberattack
            on T‑Mobile US
         ▪ Claims for damages against Slovak Telekom following a European
         ▪ Claims for damages against Deutsche Telekom AG, including due to
            insolvency of Phones4U
         ▪ Compensation in connection with the catastrophic flooding in July 2021

▪ Other financial obligations

▪ Disclosures on financial instruments
          ▪ Disclosure on fair value
          ▪ Disclosures on credit risk

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📣 Tim Höttges (CEO): Overview
00:00:59 Welcome
00:01:08 Results H1 2022: sector leading growth (p#3)
00:02:45 Financials H1 2022 organic: strong growth (p#4)
00:04:32 Networks: leading with 5G, FTTH well on track (p#5)
00:06:26 Customers: growing strongly (p#6)
00:06:54 ESG: on top of our agenda (p#7)
00:08:59 Guidance 2022: raised on both sides of the Atlantic (p#8)
00:10:47 Strategic agenda: Deutsche Telekom continues to execute (p#9)

📣 Christian Illek (CFO): Operations Review Q2-2022
00:12:47 Welcome
00:13:08 US: strong financial growth (p#11)
00:13:37 US: best ever Q2 postpaid growth (p#12)
00:14:46 DE: 23rd consecutive quarter of EBITDA growth (p#13)
00:15:02 DE: service revenues: growing across the board (p#14)
00:15:50 DE: fixed: lower net adds, strong upselling (p#15)
00:17:25 DE: retail and wholesale fixed: improved trends (p#16)
00:18:00 DE: mobile: healthy customer intake (p#17)
00:18:25 EU: 18th consecutive quarter of organic EBITDA growth (p#18)
00:19:25 EU: strong commercial performance (p#19)
00:19:37 Towers: strong growth (p#20)
00:20:07 Systems Solutions: steady recovery (p#21)

📣 Christian Illek (CFO): Financials Q2-2022
00:20:34 Overview: strong financial growth (p#23)
00:21:33 Net Income: strong growth (p#24)
00:22:41 Net debt (financial): up on dividend, stake increase TM US, and F/X (p#25)

📣 Tim Höttges (CEO): Wrap-up
00:25:57 Main takeaways (p#27)

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Questions are answered by Tim Höttges (CEO), Christian Illek (CFO) and Hannes Wittig (Head of IR).

00:28:17 Intro to Q&A

🙋‍♂️ 1. 00:28:42 Andrew J. Lee (Goldman Sachs)
-Macro sensitivity in B2B segment: now vs the fincancial crisis? What are leading indicators?

🙋‍♂️ 2. 00:33:00 Polo Tang (UBS)
-Share buyback of DT shares: what to expect in the midterm?
-DE mobile pricing: Market impact from O2D's intention to increase prices? Scope that DT will follow?

🙋‍♂️ 3. 00:37:56 Emmet Kelly (Morgan Stanley)
-Energy costs: Outlook + impact on EBITDA over the next 2-3 years?

🙋‍♂️ 4. 00:41:34 David Wright (Bank of America)
-Net debt leverage: potential to relax the targets?
-TMUS stake: intention to increase to above 50% ahead of the TMUS share-buyback?

🙋‍♂️ 5. 00:44:55 Adam M. Fox-Rumley (HSBC)
-DE FTTH rollout: plans for H2 2022?
-Telco tax in Hungary: any visibility if other countries will follow?

🙋‍♂️ 6. 00:49:14 Jakob Bluestone (Crédit Suisse)
-DE Broadband net-adds: should we expect a further slowdown or a rebound? Pressure from fixed wireless access?
-DE mobile net-adds: Can you comment on the performance on the Magenta brand?

🙋‍♂️ 7. 00:54:40 Robert Grindle (Deutsche Bank)
-M&A in Europe: What is your current thinking?
-Net debt and ex-US leverage: can you start talking about it to bring focus to the undervaluation and dividend cover of the ex-US part of DT?

🙋‍♂️ 8. 01:00:40 Georgios Ierodiaconou (Citi)
-TMUS stake: how do you go about a possible share issuance (true-up) to Softbank
-Leverage: timing of returning into corridor?
-CEO succession: how about press speculations?

🙋‍♂️ 9. 01:08:10 Joshua Mills (Exane)
-DE broadband market: momentum of alternative operators?
-US Spectrum acquisition: plans to acquire further spectrum?

🙋‍♂️ 10. 01:12:40 Stephen Malcolm (Redburn)
-TMUS accounting: differences between US-GAAP and IFRS in EBITDA?
-Energy costs: impact on consumer behaviour/spending?
-Energy shortages: perparation for possible blackouts in the winter?

🙋‍♂️ 11. 01:19:44 Ottavio Adorisio - (Societe Generale)
-DE broadband fiber wholesale: what is the reason for decline in net-adds?
-DE FTTH rollout: any stats from JVs (capex and number of households passed)?
-DE housing associations: update on DT activities and market feedback?
-DE new mobile tariffs by DT (family plans): why has this not been introduced earlier?

🙋‍♂️ 12. 01:26:26 James Ratzer (New Street Research)
-Dividend for fiscal year 2022 (timing of announcement): prior to Q3 results in November?
-Dividend for fiscal year 2022 (payout ratio): Variables?

🙋‍♂️ 13. 01:28:53 Usman Ghazi (Berenberg)
-Free cash-flow for ex-US: how you're thinking about the headroom that you've created?

🙋‍♂️ 14. 01:30:43 Simon Coles (Barclays)
-DE broadband pricing by DT: perspective of price increases?

▪ Group financials at a Glance
   H1/Q2: Table, Notes; History: 2021-14

▪ Income statement
   H1/Q2: Table, Notes; History: 2021-19

▪ Statement of cash flows
   H1/Q2: Table, Notes; History: 2021-19

▪ Balance sheet
   End of June: Table, Notes; History: 2021-19

▪ Segment reporting
   H1/End of June: Table; History: 2021-19

▪ Reconciliation of the organic development (Net revenue, EBITDA)
   H1: Table

▪ Q2: Highlights:
         ▪ Guidance raised for the 2022 financial year
         ▪ Corporate transactions: stake in T-Mobile US increased to 48.4% (+1.7%)
         ▪ Rating: S&P outlook raised from “stable” to “positive” and long-term rating of BBB confirmed
         ▪ Networks: Progress of rollout
         ▪ Collective wage agreement in DE: +2.7 - 3.1 % effective August 1, 2022 and +2.1 % effective June 1, 2023
         ▪ Cooperations, partnerships, and major deals
         ▪ Products, rate plans, and services
         ▪ Awards

▪ H1: Significant events and transactions
         ▪ Accounting policies
         ▪ War in Ukraine
         ▪ Coronavirus pandemic
         ▪ Changes in the composition of the Group
                   ▪ Sale of T-Mobile NL: completed on March 31,  2022
                   ▪ Joint venture with IFM for FTTH rollout: completed on Feb. 28, 2022
         ▪ Other transactions that had no effect on the composition of the Group

▪ Events after the reporting period (July 1 until Aug 10, 2022)
         ▪ Agreement with DigitalBridge and Brookfield on the Group’s cell tower business in Germany and Austria
         ▪ Proceedings against T Mobile US in consequence of the cyberattack on T Mobile US
         ▪ New limited partners admitted to infrastructure fund (DIV II)
         ▪ Agreements on the acquisition of spectrum licenses in the United States

▪ Overview

▪ Results of operations of the Group
         ▪ Financials: Net revenue, service revenue; Adjusted EBITDA AL, EBITDA AL; EBIT;
            Profit before income taxes; Net profit, adjusted net profit; Earnings per share,
            adjusted earnings per share; Special factors
         ▪ Employees

▪ Financial position of the Group: Balance sheet, net debt, free cash flow

▪ Other information
         ▪ Group organization, strategy, and management
         ▪ Executive bodies: Board of management supervisory board
         ▪ Related party disclosure

▪ Germany
         ▪ Business: Mobile, Fixed, Wholesale
         ▪ Financials: Total-/service revenues, EBITDA, EBIT, Capex

▪ US
         ▪ Business: Customers (prepaid/contract)
         ▪ Financials: Total-/service revenues, EBITDA, EBIT, Capex

▪ Europe
        ▪ Business: Customers, Mobile communications, Fixed network, FMC
        ▪ Financials: Total-/service revenues, EBITDA, EBIT, Capex 

▪ Systems Solutions
        ▪ Business: Overview
         ▪ Financials: Total-/service revenues, EBITDA, EBIT, Capex

▪ Group Development
        ▪ Business: Customers in NL
        ▪ Financials: Total-/service revenues, EBITDA, EBIT, Capex

▪ Group Headquarters and Group Services
        ▪ Financials: Total-/service revenues, EBITDA, EBIT, Capex

▪ Segment reporting (Table)

▪ The economic environment
         ▪ Macroeconomic development
         ▪ Overall economic risks
         ▪ Regulation:
                   ▪ EU roaming regulation
                   ▪ Approval of rates for copper-based wholesale services in DE for 10 years
                   ▪ Awarding of spectrum

▪ Forecast

▪ Risks and opportunities
         ▪ Risks arising from the macroeconomic environment
         ▪ Procurement and supply risks
         ▪ Litigation
         ▪ Anti-trust proceedings
         ▪ Assessment of the aggregate risk position

▪ Contingencies
         ▪ Claims relating to charges for the shared use of cable ducts
         ▪ Proceedings against T‑Mobile US in consequence of the cyberattack on T‑Mobile US
         ▪ Claims for damages against Slovak Telekom following a European
         ▪ Commission decision to impose fines
         ▪ Compensation in connection with the catastrophic flooding in July 2021

▪ Other financial obligations

▪ Disclosures on financial instruments
          ▪ Disclosure on fair value
          ▪ Disclosures on credit risk

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Here you find the consensus for the first quarter 2022: